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PostSubject: Democracy vs. Freedom   Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:20 pm

I was having a "discussion" with a communist on CreateDebate and it had occured to me that democracy easily has the ability to take away freedom. it isn't freedom at all, because there is still power over individuals, and that is the power of the majority.

keep in mind, we were debating Capitalism vs. Socialism, and of course that shit wandered. The thing is, in order to ensure individual freedoms, we must set permanent laws... which defeats the purpose of democracy.

such as prostitution. prostitution is a way of making money by providing a service that's perfectly legal to do for free. yet, states have the ability to make it illegal, thus, restricting our individual freedoms. this is something that we do privately in a consenting form, yet, the power of the people has restricted the rights of the individual.


I have a theory, that Facism (communism, socialism, totalitarianism, w/e you want) has two ways of being applied to a country. Either
1. through a dictator who enforces laws that restrict individual freedoms
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2. through a democracy in which the people eventually vote in laws that take away our individual rights because of fear and extreme cases.


the thing is, why can't we create laws permanently allowing us to live our private lives the way we want? what's the crime if I decide to drop Acid while watching "300"?

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PostSubject: Re: Democracy vs. Freedom   Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:43 am

The crime of Acid, or why it was outlawed, was that a large number of people were simply doing incredibly stupid and dangerous things.

Example:
Jumping off building into traffic.

While jumping off building and dying would normally be the end... they involved other people by landing in traffic and endangering others lives.

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PostSubject: Re: Democracy vs. Freedom   Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:40 am

so does getting drunk or being depressed. are we gonna ban alcohol or mandate psychology sessions for everyone?

what acid does is make you hallucinate and see things in several dimensions. why some had jumped off of buildings is probably because they had been tripping to the point where they thought they could fly, or they couldn't take the images anymore.

once again, based on extreme situations. it's like banning guns because there have been cases of shoot outs.

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PostSubject: Re: Democracy vs. Freedom   Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:48 am

We DID ban alcohol, if you remember. It just didn't go over well.

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PostSubject: Re: Democracy vs. Freedom   Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:05 am

i know, but do you think it was right? as in, for those who think it's right to ban acid, would have to think it's right to ban alcohol.

we learn from history. prohibition was based on ideology and we all see it as wrong now.

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PostSubject: Re: Democracy vs. Freedom   Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:35 am

Alcohol is actually a meal in itself, it is full of protein, vitamins, carbohydrates, like I said a mean in itself

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PostSubject: Re: Democracy vs. Freedom   Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:40 am

shrooms can be a meal, and, they make you enter the awesome land of snickers men.

cocaine lowers your appetite. so does crack and meth.

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PostSubject: Re: Democracy vs. Freedom   Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:45 am

CarsitoPyg wrote:
the thing is, why can't we create laws permanently allowing us to live our private lives the way we want? what's the crime if I decide to drop Acid while watching "300"?


that is true. the US should create laws that allow me to do what i want in private. But still that could be a problem because what if i enjoy watching child porn on the internet in my house, there is a federal law outlawing pedophilia, so which then (if both were federal laws) would win out? or would it have to be taken to the supreme court?

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PostSubject: Re: Democracy vs. Freedom   Sat Aug 30, 2008 1:01 pm

the problem with child porn is someone is being victimized and you're giving money or views to that. a download helps them in their networking of child porn.

although, lolicon technically has no victimization, so it shouldn't be illegal.

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PostSubject: Re: Democracy vs. Freedom   Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:33 pm

CarsitoPyg wrote:
the problem with child porn is someone is being victimized and you're giving money or views to that. a download helps them in their networking of child porn.

although, lolicon technically has no victimization, so it shouldn't be illegal.


but it still has children in sexual situation and bein taken advanteg of drawing or not it should be considerd child porn

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PostSubject: Re: Democracy vs. Freedom   Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:50 am

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CarsitoPyg wrote:
the problem with child porn is someone is being victimized and you're giving money or views to that. a download helps them in their networking of child porn.

although, lolicon technically has no victimization, so it shouldn't be illegal.


but it still has children in sexual situation and bein taken advanteg of drawing or not it should be considerd child porn


it's not a real child though. it's a victimless crime.

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